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Written by Jonathan Partridge / Patterson Irrigator /   
Wednesday, 09 January 2008

Canyon residents’ feelings mixed about upcoming bike tour
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Del Puerto Canyon is a popular place for serious cyclists, one of the reasons the Amgen Tour of California will follow the winding trail this year. But canyon residents are worried about the toll the tour could take on their neighborhoods. Photo by Elias Funez
Bicyclists say the lush scenery and steep inclines of Del Puerto Canyon make it a great place for riding.

However, many of the canyon’s residents say the hills’ twists, turns and narrow roads are dangerous for cyclists, and they describe some riders as rude and unaccommodating.

Those sentiments may come to a head as the canyon is about to see more bicycles than ever, when it plays host to a portion of the 700-mile Amgen Tour of California on Feb. 20.

While the professional tour will mean entertainment and a bit of added prestige for the cities of Modesto, Patterson and San Jose, several Del Puerto Canyon residents fear it may mean road closures, difficult access for emergency vehicles and the possibility of more trash left on the side of the road.

Many of those residents are speaking up, hoping to ease some of the problems that come with lots of traffic on a narrow, winding road.

“We don’t intend to stop them,” canyon resident John Chamorro said. “We want to not know they’re here.”

Some of those concerns will be aired at a public forum Jan. 16 at Mt. Hamilton’s Smith Creek Cal-Fire station.

Varied reactions
Ask canyon residents about what they think about the upcoming race and expect to get varied responses — welcoming, cynical and downright antagonistic.

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Hit the road: A group of Stanislaus County Bike Club cyclists takes a break before heading back toward Patterson during their annual New Year’s Day ride through Del Puerto Canyon. A major race, the 700-mile Amgen Tour of California, will pass through the canyon Feb. 20. Photo by Elias Funez
Paul Mason, who owns water, real estate and construction businesses based in the canyon, firmly opposes the race.

Most bicyclists are drug users, he claimed, making reference to some pro cyclists who have been caught using steroids, and he said he will lose a day of work because of the race. As a result, he may consider taking race organizers to small-claims court.

“They’re violating our rights,” he said.

On the other hand, canyon resident Jill Owens looks forward to the race.

“This is huge to the bicyclists,” she said. “This is like the Tour de France.

“I think it’s great.”

Many residents are taking a more guarded approach, neither enthusiastic nor antagonistic.

“We’re willing to work with (race organizers),” said Glenn Dolfin, executive director of the Mt. Hamilton Range Improvement Association. “We want to get in as quickly as we can.”

Dolfin said the range association got involved because it has received so many phone calls about the matter. About half the people he has talked with support the race, while the other half oppose it, he said.

Long-time tensions
Even Owens noted that there have been tensions between bicyclists and residents in the area, particularly on Mines Road. Sometimes, she said, a large group of cyclists will ride in front of cars and not move out of the way.

Dolfin said bicyclists are among the groups that cause the most problems for canyon residents, followed by motorcyclists, bird watchers and regular traffic.

Dolfin, who used to patrol the area as a Santa Clara County Sheriff’s deputy, said the vast majority of accidents on the canyon’s roads involve outsiders, such as motorcyclists and bicyclists.

The canyon is not a safe place for bicyclists, agreed canyon resident Wayne Armbrust, a cycling enthusiast himself.

“I personally will not ride my bike up here,” Armbrust said.

Many residents cite the story of a young man in the area who struck and killed a cyclist with his vehicle. The driver said the cyclist was at fault, but his family is now being sued.

Ronnie Chamorro, wife of John Chamorro, said some bicyclists are courteous and move to the side when cars approach. Other riders spit at and kick vehicles or make rude gestures, she said.

Many also charge cyclists with trespassing and littering, leaving behind wrappers from energy bars, for example.

Area resident Cheryl Jorgensen belongs to the Alameda County Rural Roads group, which works to resolve problems on the county’s rural roads. She recounted the story of a woman who saw two cyclists urinating on her property one day. When the woman drove up to address them, the cyclists expressed outrage that she interrupted them, Jorgensen said.

“The reality is there are no bathrooms up here, and people do need to meet their needs,” she said.
On the other hand, many cyclists  say they like riding in the canyon and they generally have no problems with its residents.

Karen Shoup, a member of the Stanislaus County Bicicycle Club, said a pickup almost ran her off the road the one time she rode in the canyon. However, she said it is a beautiful area and that most drivers the club encounters are respectful.

Increased Concerns
Now, the canyon is about to experience the biggest bicycle event it has ever hosted.

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While some riders race in single file, others — such as these Stanislaus County Bike Club riders, shown Jan. 1 — bunch up and fill the roadway, a practice that makes some Del Puerto Canyon residents uneasy about safety on the road. Photo by Elias Funez
Last year’s race drew about 1.6 million spectators along the entire course, said Michael Roth, a spokesman for AEG, which sponsors the Amgen Tour of California.

In addition to concerns about trash, John Chamorro said there are lots of logistical concerns, not least of which is access to residents’ properties.

Extra medical staffing will be needed, as will more sheriff’s vehicles and emergency medical helicopters, John Chamorro said.

Jorgensen said she thinks a bond should be posted for garbage impacts.

In addition, residents say some people own parts of Del Puerto Canyon Road and have granted an easement for its use. Now, they want to make sure property owners are not liable for injuries that may happen along the course.

Jorgensen said race organizers are less familiar with the area than local residents and should make sure to work with them.

“We know the conditions we’re under,” she said, “but the people organizing the race are coming without the knowledge.”

Working it out
Amgen representatives and government officials alike say they think many of residents’ concerns will be addressed by the time of the race.

Race spokesman Roth said tour organizers hope to minimize negative experiences for local residents. The tour will operate with rolling closures, for example, in which roads are opened behind the cyclists as soon as they pass a particular grid.

“We’re fully aware of the impact that businesses and families have along the route, and we’re looking to minimize them,” Roth said.

People who live along the route will receive notices about the course by mail in coming weeks, he said.

Amgen Tour course director Eric Smith also stated on the Eastern Santa Clara County Rural Roads Web site that emergency vehicles always have priority over the race.

Traffic behind the race will be able to go in the same direction, but will not be able to pass the race. Traffic in front can continue with no restriction, as long as it moves faster than the racers, who will travel at about 30 mph. Cross traffic on Mines Road will be allowed to pass until the race is about 1½ miles away. After that, vehicles must wait a few minutes for the cyclists to pass, Smith wrote.

John Chamorro said he talked to Smith on the phone over the weekend and said he seemed sensitive to residents’ worries.

John Brazil, bicyclist and pedestrian program coordinator for the city of San Jose, which is helping with the logistics of the race’s third leg, said this is the third year the race has gone through San Jose.

“It’s been a good experience,” he said.

Continuing dialogue
Colleen Valles, a policy aide for Santa Clara County Supervisor Donald Gage’s office, said the county wants to ensure that race organizers stick to their word about the race’s impacts.

In that vein, the Jan. 16 meeting will include Amgen officials and the California Highway Patrol  among others.

Owens said she is optimistic the tension between residents and organizers can be worked out.   

“I certainly hope our community is not successful in stopping the race from going through here,” she said.

To reach Jonathan Partridge at the Irrigator, call 892-6187 or e-mail him at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

At a glance
WHAT: Santa Clara County forum on Amgen Tour of California race
WHEN: 3:30 p.m. Jan. 16
WHERE:  Smith Creek
Cal-Fire station, 22805 Mount Hamilton Road,
in Mount Hamilton (east of San Jose)

 

 

 

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Bike story
written by John Chamorro , January 09, 2008
Kudos to Jonathon Partridge. I think it was a fairly presented article. One of the issues we fight is the fact of the bikes not yielding to traffic. It can be plainly seen in the first and third pictures that the bikes do not ride in accordance to the law. The second photo clearly show them trespa*sing to the adjacent properties along side the road.
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Response to Chamorro
written by John Gerling , January 09, 2008
Chamorro, you might be right about the third photo (come on guys, you should know better than that!), but you are way off on the other two. Apparently you haven't a clue about the CVC as it relates to bicycles (starting at Section 21200). The first photo shows a group of riders who are quite well behaved and riding safely. Although they are shown in the center of the lane, the CVC permits such riding if necessary to avoid road hazards (Section 21202). Del Puerto Canyon Road is full of hazards, so it is quite likely these riders were simply avoiding them. And as for the second photo, since when is it trespa*sing to be on a roadside turn-out clearly put there for allowing vehicles (including bicycles!) to pull off the road?
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Bikes vs vehicles
written by Fred Randle , January 10, 2008
As an avid mountain biker that mostly rides dirt trails in the Sierras, I really enjoy an occasional road ride in Del Puerto Canyon. I have witnessed every type of incident described in the article.

Like most news articles, it's easy to take things out of context. I am guilty of riding as depicted in photo #3 but at the the first hint of a vehicle approaching, a rider yells out "CAR" and the group moves to the right edge of the road.

My opinion is there are a few selfish,rude and inconsiderate people on both sides of the issue mess things up for the majority of those who are polite, considerate and willing to share the road.
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Clueless?
written by John Chamorro , January 10, 2008
Gerling, Your attitude is precisely what turns people against bike riders. The "turnout" as you call it is at the top of Quicksilver Grade. It is private property owned by the McGowan Ranch. In fact , they own the property on both sides of the road as does the Conyers family at that same area. The county has an easement for ingress and egress only along these roads where properties are privately owned on BOTH sides of the road.There are no county owned turnouts. They are all private property. Some of the land owners allow them to be used for emergencies. Some of them are fenced off as further east in the canyon. As a 25 year Canyon resident I have seen courteous and rude riders alike as you have no doubt seen the same in drivers. One way to be able to get along is not to start off with a chip on your shoulder telling me "I don't have a clue" when it seems to be the other way around.
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John?
written by Kevin Scoles , January 10, 2008
John aren't you contradicting yourself when you complain about riders not yielding...but then also complain about the riders pulled off to the side of the road? It sounds to me like your looking to nit pick. I see no problem with a cyclist pulling off to take a break. There rubber bike tires cause no damage to the dirt shoulder and they are obvously not crossing fences or visual property lines. I for one am really floored by the heavily ignorent comments of Paul Mason claiming that "most cyclists are drug users". Mr. Mason is way off base and obvously no's nothing regarding the subject. That comment carries no merrit at all and I'm surprised to hear someone say that. It's never good to throw stones and I'd have to say that the vast majority of these cyclist probably live and promote a much healthier lifestyle than the average citizen. I would be interested to here some more from Paul if he reads this. The Canyon is an amazing beutiful place....share it people! The Dhali Lama once said "Share knowledge its a way to achieve imortality"
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written by John Chamorro , January 10, 2008
No, not contradicting myself. Realize there is a difference between moving near the shoulder and leaving the roadway to rest and sometimes leave water bottles, wrappers and the ever present flat discarded tires.
I would like to give you a thought to ponder. If a given rider rides up the canyon once a week then his exposure to daily traffic is minimal . If he rides every day then obviously it is multiplied by 7. The residents up here who must travel the road on a daily basis to and from work are exposed to traffic of all kinds twice a day, or multiply by 14. If there was a day where only 1 or 2 riders were encountered the interaction wouldn't be so bad. If the driver encounters a pack of bikes on a daily basis, which is more often the case, then by the time you have negotiated around the last or first rider depending on the direction , nerves can be worn pretty thin.
As far as Mason goes,,, I didn't write the article.
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written by arlon , January 10, 2008
the third photo is just more fuel for hype from the local news paper, as in most of this article ,,trying to make a story(conflict) where it does not exist. Thank you for the B.S.Paterson Irrigator. I am in the third photo as well as all the photos. The third photo is a group of faster riders pa*sing a slower group(I am sure the photographer knew that as he followed our group all day). Nice try. I did not know this is a private road. Stanislaus Co. seems to spend a lot of time fixing and clearing this private road. Does the county send the residents a bill for the repaires each month? The third pohto is where we normaly take a leak. The first photo is... beautiful. oh by the way most of the ridders in the pix, are from an other club. smilies/cool.gif
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written by Kevin Scoles , January 11, 2008
"One of the issues we fight is the fact of the bikes not yielding to traffic. It can be plainly seen in the first and third pictures that the bikes do not ride in accordance to the law. The second photo clearly show them trespa*sing to the adjacent properties along side the road." So...they can yield as long as they stay within a 6 inch parrameter that is on the edge of the road, but not yet on the dirt? I'll tell you what I've experienced when driving in the canyon...which is generally a leasurely drive to enjoy the great foothills that we have in our back yard. Just about every time you are guaranteed to get practically ran off the road by a canyon resident who knows the twists and turns so well they feel as if they can drive as fast as they'd like. Often times I see large pickups come barreling around corners....pa*sing where they shouldn't...and riding way to close to the car in front of them. The the pendulem swings both ways. I'm sure being a resident you realize that one of the down falls of living up there is the time it takes to traverse the road.....you should expect to encounter weekenders, bikers, cyclists and other citizens enjoying what the canyon has to offer. There certainly is no excuse for the litter. But take a look at the beer cans along the road and I bet you'll see many more of them than you will tires and bike by-products.
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written by John Chamorro , January 12, 2008
"The third photo is just more fuel for hype from the local news paper, as in most of this article" So that's a Photo Shop creation to make bikes look bad?
"Does the county send the residents a bill for the repaires each month?" Yes, we call it property taxes.
"The third pohto is where we normaly take a leak." Thanks for admitting to illegal urinating in public. Too bad you didn't sign your name to it.
"oh by the way most of the ridders in the pix, are from an other club." It wasn't me! I swear it was the other guy!!!

Thanks for the giggles and grins, ride safe.


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written by John Chamorro , January 12, 2008
"Often times I see large pickups come barreling around corners....pa*sing where they shouldn't...and riding way to close to the car in front of them."

Guilty as charged. We (I) have a three turn out rule. If a slower vehicle doesn't have the courtesy to pull over or atleast acknowledge there is a faster vehicle behind them,within 3 turnouts that are sometimes miles apart, then your going to be pa*sed at the next safe opportunity. The residents of the canyon know where the next opportunity to pa*s will be. We know where you can look through the corners.
Every body including the bikes have the right to travel the roads. Some faster, some slower. The bikes are the only group as a whole that refuses to yield to faster traffic. It doesn't seem to me to be such a big deal to momentarily move to the right, acknowledge there is a vehicle behind and be pa*sed.

Do you think it's the residents dropping the cans and litter? Nope! It's some of those "weekenders, bikers, cyclists and other citizens "

Oh yes, don't forget the poachers who come to shoot the cattle and the elk.
Have a little thought for the people that live here. We should all be able to get along just fine.
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Be courteous and respectful
written by Kyle Clinton , January 13, 2008
Both sides can argue their points until the end of time, but the fact remains that cyclists will continue to ride the road and residents still have to live there. Both sides need to be courteous and respectful to each other (share the road). Cyclist need to understand that while riding double and triple is fun they need to respect traffic. Drivers need to understand that if the lane is not wide enough for a vehicle to pa*s a cyclist SAFELY, they do not have to move over. Most cases, cars only get held up 20 seconds or so anyway. Cyclists need to make sure they pack out what they pack in and most do. Residents need to realize that the litter problem is not entirely cyclists, but it also stems from things like people throwing things out the windows of vehicles and garbage blowing out the back of pickups as well. Ever get behind a garbage truck and see the mess they leave behind? I know a lot of the cyclists in the area and they are good people. I also believe the residents who live out there are good people as well. If we all are courteous and respectful to each other (and our surroundings), put ourselves in each others shoes and see it from their perspective and don’t let a few bad apples spoil it, everybody can coexist on that road.

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