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Development west of I-5 revisited Print E-mail
Written by John Saiz | Patterson Irrigator   
Wednesday, 27 August 2008


What to do with land west of Interstate 5 took center stage once again at Monday’s General Plan Advisory Committee meeting.

City planners and consultants strongly recommended leaving almost all the land alone, while developers and property owners highlighted ways to bring both housing and commercial development to the hills of Del Puerto Canyon. At the previous GPAC meeting on July 22, similar debates consumed much of the conversation.

Several canyon residents came to the meeting, as did a representative from the Stanislaus Audubon Society, and said the unique character of the canyon should not be trampled by urban development. Committee members had varying opinions on canyon development.

Ultimately, city staff suggested they could draft special design guidelines for the canyon that will be presented at the committee’s next meeting Sept. 9. However, staff continued to warn against developing too far west.

“I cannot stress enough my recommendation to not develop west of I-5,” said Rod Simpson, Patterson’s director of community development.

Simpson’s main concerns were encroachment onto land reserved by the federal government for threatened or endangered species, the difficulty of getting sewer and water west of I-5 and the fact that it would alter the views of the hills.

Planning consultant Dave Moran also brought up the difficulty of building on the Canyon’s slopes.

Developers and property owners were ready with their own arguments why the canyon is the right spot for development. Joe Hollowell, who has helped bring housing projects and industrial parks to Patterson, showed slides indicating the areas that had a gentle enough slope to support either housing or commercial areas.

He also showed slides of how development on the top of the hills could be hidden from view with a combination of landscaping and cutting into the hills.

Jeff Arambel, who owns a nice chunk of the property the committee was discussing, said getting water across the aqueduct, canal and I-5 is not an impossible goal. He said he already has large amounts of agricultural water going to orchards between the California Aqueduct and I-5.

“I’ve got water there right now,” Arambel said.

The final decision will be made when Patterson City Council approves revisions to the city’s general plan.

All the canyon talk got started when the council decided it was time to revise the general plan, a state-mandated document that guides long-term city growth. The GPAC was created by the council to get the ball rolling on the revisions.

The committee is expected to have two more meetings, Sept. 9 and Oct. 6, before their final recommendations will be complete. Patterson Planning Commission will then get its chance to weigh in and, finally, the council will have its say.
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Leave the Hills West of I5 alone
written by CountryDweller , August 28, 2008
Note to City Council, leave the hills west of Highway 5 alone. Both the general plan consultant and Patterson's Community Development Director have recommended against developing west of I5 for a variety of reasons. Even residents of the area have spoken out against it.

The only people pushing this are landowners west of I5 and developers who stand to make money off of it. It is not like the city doesn't already have enough land set aside for housing and commercial in the new general plan. As I see it, if the council votes to allow development in the hills, then it will obvious that the development community has really taken hold of the city's planning process.

Also, I am very opposed to West Park. But if Patterson does this, it sure makes the city look hypocritical to others outside of the area when it opposes West Park but makes its own reckless growth plans.

Soembody put a sock in Joe Holowell's mouth. All he wants to do is pave over everything within site.
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written by Mark G Weller , August 28, 2008
I agree totally. Leave the hills alone. There has been enough damage done by Panoz and the current water issues should discourage anyone from building there.
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written by Blehhh Surrounded By Idiots , August 28, 2008
Gluttons for punishment! It is all greed! Leave the hills alone and lets pave over Holliwell! there is so much beauty here and wildlife! Where is all the wildlife to go? also haven't anyone of you learned yet that to do so would just leave another contaminated ghost town such as Diablo Grande will turn into. What is wrong with these idiots? Look at all the empty houses in Patterson's developments and you want to build more? Maybe all of your brains became infected due to contaminated water? Leave the land alone! you are killing and destroying everything in your greedy path just to add more dollars in your pocket, guess what the dollar is worth crap!
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written by Jeff Realini , August 28, 2008
Are we planning on annexing the land west of I-5 now up to Diablo Grande? I agree with CountryDweller again on this - the council and planning commision is looking really hypocritical if they support this.
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written by CountryDweller , August 28, 2008
Jeff,

No, the council is not trying to annex all the way to Diablo Grande. But a square piece on Highway 5 along Patterson's limits. From Tracy down to Santa Nella, there is no residential development on the West Side of highway 5. There is no reason for Patterson to start now.

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written by Alan , August 28, 2008
I live in Livermore and my primary interest in Patterson is Diablo Grande, so I don't live in Patterson (but we have good friends who grew up there - how many of you have moved in in the last 40-years?). I was told by a growth management specialist that the San Francisco Bay area will increase in population by about 50% over the next 20, or so, years. But since a lot of the Bay Area is already built up those areas that have land remaining, like Livermore, are going to double in population. Patterson has lots of land available.

What are the operative words here? The population is growing! There is a solution . . .
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written by CountryDweller , August 29, 2008
The operative words? What is the solution? What are you saying? The land in this valley ir prime farmland that should not all be paved over.
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written by Jeff Realini , August 29, 2008
Alan,
First Diablo Grande is not Patterson. DG is nearly 10 miles up the hill
from I-5 and the city border.
As a San Francisco native that has moved out to Patterson recently, I am being quite a hypocrite in what I'm saying. I will say though Patterson is NOT going to be forced by outside influences to become the warehouse for the people and goods for the bay. The population preasures for the Bay Area need to be dealt with in the region. If the population flows into the Tri-Valley are (Livermore, Pleasanton, San Ramon), and the cities and counties agree to build more houses, great. Patterson and the rest of the West Valley does not have the natural resources nor infrastructure to support that level growth regardless of the available land.
The solution is that the Bay counties DEAL with their growth issues not
ship them to us.
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written by what say you , September 04, 2008
finish diablo and leave the rest of the land alone...patterson need not loose sight of improving the current city and geeting folks into the large supply of empty homes.
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