Comments for Diablo Grande offer falls through; sealed bid auction planned at http://pattersonirrigator.com , comment 1 to 28 out of 20 comments http://pattersonirrigator.com Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:08:39 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-862 That is exactly what we are doing New to Diablo Grande. All the facts have been shared, If you are interested in joining the group that is working to get this changed and learn more about it let us know. - Mark G Weller Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:13:14 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-859 My husband and I moved to Diablo last Oct in 2007. We never drink the water and coming from the bay area I never drank that water either. I think nowadays there are so many foreign elemnents in all of our drinking water, I can't believe people still want to drink out of their faucets. I have bought bottled water since the early 90's and also have a filtration system in every place I've lived in. I think as populations grow and the need for water has compromised the quality to the point we all can't take risks. I would appreciate that those that are truly sick from having drank the water share their story rather than someone who is looking to exploit a sensitive and difficult issue for us all. We should only discuss facts that can be supported and viewed for all to see. - New to Diabo Grande Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:03:21 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-850 i do not doubt that the water has made some people ill. but the question is who is really sick and who is looking for big fat check! You sir and your crowd of sick phonies will be the reason truly sick people are thrown out of court! the courts will not be able to determine who is real and who is fake. I suggest anyone who is truly ill stay away from the con man mark ! if you are so poor get medi-cal! the system is set up for folks in your situation. they even will take people with prior health issues. maybe then you can update everyone at a b.s hoa water meeting about your current helath status. I am going to answer the question as to how we ended up here. I came here from NY well over a year ago after finding this was the CHEAPEST rent. I was healthy even having spent 14 yrs working and taking care of mentally retarded adults. In a nut shell, Mark became ill 2 mos after moving here. Not long after I started to become sick. Not even a month ago I had a small stroke. At 45 yrs of age, I should not be feeling as bad as I do. Our house is back up to the vinyards as well, men riding around up there in full suits wearing masks and spraying God knows what into our yard. Even our dogs have gotten sick. Residents have the right to be warned when they are going to spray anything. And we are also entitled to clean, safe drinking water especially when we have to pay for it! To make myself very clear, everyones immune systems are different. Everyone seems to think this is about money and a big "pay day" you are wrong. It is about making the drinking water and the water we bathe in safe for everyone now and in the future. - Angry Mom Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:24:02 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-839 how could i misquote you they were your words...so you have lived here over a year. i did not get the disclosure letter as well like i stated in previous thread.....why is their no out cry against dr horton? they are the ones who took choices away for a profit. why get blood from a turnip? dr horton is a better route.im so tired of western water hills drama i wish we all could focus on dr horton. proving failure to disclose is much better then shouting at hoa meetings. i could careless what you think of me..... - what say you? Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:10:27 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-838 I will "prove" nothing to the likes of you. and reread my statements. You misquoted me. I said:I happen to like Patterson; I have been living here and visiting here for many years much longer that most of the folks that live here in Diablo Grande. If you read carefully you will see that I stated I have lived AND visited here...If you think you need clarification I have lived in Diablo Grande for 16 months. I have been in and around Patterson as a Pilot in the Fiesta for many years. And no I was not aware of the water issues before I moved here and nether was the home owner. This is because DR Horton was not disclosing the facts about the water.Now as for your demands for my personal records that will not happen, you are nobody and have no need for that information. Do the research and you will find out that the EPA level of 80 PPM are way too high. The studies done by the places I mentioned and other studies all show serious birth defects, neurological damage and much more at levels of 20 PPM. One Doctor is even sending a request to the EPA to lower their "safe" levels to something more realistic. If you want to think of me as a "Scammer" I really don't care. I will be kind and not say what I think of you. - Mark G Weller Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:58:33 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-837 show your proof water martyr guy!! what kind of person i am ..im a type of person who does care but for people who have honest intensions..like i said you avoided direct questions by replying with "They will be shown to those that have a need for that information." i said prove it, i want to see so i can be informed is that not a need for it. bring your records to the irrigator and have them post the d/x stating that it was the water. also you still did not respond to why did you move to diablo if you are a long time Patterson resident? people have been screaming about this water in town for years, how were you not in know? especially since you are so involved in the community. because remember you said 1st said I happen to like Patterson; I have been living here and visiting here for many years much longer that most of the folks that live here in Diablo Grande. I have participated in the Apricot Fiesta many times as a Balloon Pilot providing enjoyment for all the residents and attendees how were you not in the know about the water? but i know you will not answer you are too busy in the water hysteria. i know ther are findings but i also know it is detalied and it clearly states that it takes years of consumption with high levels of tthm's. go ahead scammers!!!!! - what say you? Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:07:13 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-836 Good be gone! - Mark G Weller Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:17:58 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-833 OMG!!! You're the angry person Mr. Mark G Weller. As I have stated in MY earlier comments I'm happy here and so are some other folks who live here. We just want the water fixed. It will as soon as this place is bought or given over to the state. Good job "What say you?". Oh I can cut and paste to Mr IQ.... I won't correct your spelling SMART GUY! 1)childish name calling 2)The spelling and punctuation in your quotes have been corrected 3)That is the first smart thing you have said 4)You make so many grneralizations in you rant that it is worthless. 5)doctords at UCSF know a little more that you SIR 6)You mix your issues with no connecting theme or intelligent thoughts. 7)That person needs to "pull their head out" so to speak. 8)I really don't care what you think NorCalBearz. 9)Till then shut up. I'm done with you!! 8) - NorCalBearz Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:36:37 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-829 Well it is sad that some folks have to resort to this kind of childish name calling and false accusations. All I can say is that whomever reads this will know what kind of person you are. My information is documented and factual. I really don't have to explain anymore. My story here along with many others will be told weather you like it or not. The responsible people will be held accountable and you can stay and be angry all by yourself. Have a great day. - Mark G Weller Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:11:48 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-826 no one at western water hills is my buddy! please is that the best you can say? i just have picked a different route to go about the situation. however you sound like a true phony! now that you have been confronted and asked to prove your finidings and offered simple solutions to protect your family you wiggle around , avoid, twist, and try and do word play with your statements! if you are so smart once again why have you not figured a way to get a job and get out of here? i see you walking around, how ill are you that you can't get a job and move? or are you just to be busy playing the diablo water martyr and an inside man for the patterson irrigator. I bet you are eating up every second of your 5 min of fame! i bet you are one of those sue happy slip and fall con artist! i do not doubt that the water has made some people ill. but the question is who is really sick and who is looking for big fat check! You sir and your crowd of sick phonies will be the reason truly sick people are thrown out of court! the courts will not be able to determine who is real and who is fake. I suggest anyone who is truly ill stay away from the con man mark ! if you are so poor get medi-cal! the system is set up for folks in your situation. they even will take people with prior health issues. maybe then you can update everyone at a b.s hoa water meeting about your current helath status. im fully aware of the people leaving..not worried. i actually hope they don't build another darn house and never build the hotel. the more isolated i am the better. why did you move to diablo if you are a long time Patterson resident? people have been screaming about this water in town for years, how were you not in know? especially since you are so involved in the community. stay true to california ways..sue happy and get rich quick schemes! I laugh at the fact you think you are speaking the truth..you are a scammer! how dare you jump on the band wagon of people who have lived here for years and really are sick. "ohh my skin is burning" "ooh i drank some bad water for 6 mths and now I can't go to work" ya right!!! if it was not the water it would be something else. which like i said before im sure have numerous lawsuits pending..your just that kind of guy. well smarty you had better get a life jacket sounds like your in a pickle and will be going down the diablo tubes with the rest of us. go back to sitting on your couch conspiring ways to get a free ride in life. - what say you? Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:44:37 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-824 To: what say you? and NorCalBearz (The spelling and punctuation in your quotes have been corrected) Quote “For a having such a high IQ why do you continue to live in Diablo Why continue to drink the water if it is killing you”. Answer: I was fired from my long time and very good paying job after being forced onto disability by the illness caused by living here. We do not drink the water. And yes I have an attorney dealing with the company regarding the federal statutes they ignored. Quote “At the next water meeting could you have your Doctors from Davis come and share their findings of your sickness to the rest of us? Or at the very least could you share your patient records with us and explain all of your testing that you did since you are being so open. That way the ones who can afford it will know what test to ask for”. Answer: Absolutely not, The Doctors are much too busy to come here. However the information on their studies regarding this issue is freely available. Do the research, I did. No again, my medical records will not be shown to you or your likes. They will be shown to those that have a need for that information. Quote “But wait a minute your insurance is still paying for you to continue with testing and treatment even though you continue to subject your body to the very thing that is killing it? I need that insurance company’s phone number! Answer: I do not have insurance since I was fired; all the testing was done prior to my insurance running out. Quote “So let me get this clear you don't have money for a filtration system but you have money for 5 star care at some of Northern California's most pricy health care facilities. Wow that must be some gas bills in itself getting to and from Davis and UCSF”. Answer: I did not state that I was cared for by these doctors; I stated that their studies and reports were available and show the facts. Facts that are much worse that you or any of your buddies up there admit. I wish I had the funds to be cared for there. In fact I have no care now whatsoever. Quote ‘if I were sick no lease or rental agreement would keep me from providing a safer environment for my family”. Answer: That is the first smart thing you have said, I would also if I had the means to move. You can believe that I will as soon as I can find a way. And by the way, many families are leaving as we speak. Diablo Grande is going down the drain with the contaminated water. Quote “I also want the State Board of Health to show their face as well at a water meeting. No more here say about the Health Board. I want to see concrete proof of all the rumors flying around. I want it to come right from the horse’s mouth”. Answer: That would be nice but I suspect they are too busy to be there. It is however not hearsay; it is commonly available knowledge that the district was fined and threatened with more fines. It is also fact directly from the same source that the levels of TTHMs have INCREASED in the last report period instead of decreasing. Quote “You should press your landlord in to getting a filtered water system or see if there are any other causes in your home that may be causing your ENTIRE family to have ailments. Like the formaldehyde that’s in the building materials that you’re living in”. Answer: This too is being looked into however it is a separate issue (building materials) and the responsible parties differ. I happen to like Patterson; I have been living here and visiting here for many years much longer that most of the folks that live here in Diablo Grande. I have participated in the Apricot Fiesta many times as a Balloon Pilot providing enjoyment for all the residents and attendees. Yes I am angry Norcal, and I have a complete right to be. That however does not diminish the effects of the environment on me or my family or the many other families living here. And it does not change the facts in any way. In closing I want to thank both of you for your questions, it has provided an opportunity for me to respond and for all the people reading this to see the truth. And is does not end here, this issue has and will continue to be in major news publications until a resolution is found. If there is an Erin Brockovich out there reading this please contact us, we need you. - Mark G Weller Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:32:40 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-823 SIR, I do not care about the equity in my home. It's gone so what! (long term investment). [b]I figured the 6-9 month schemer statement really has fried your 164 IQ. (Why is that so?)[/b] Question: why would a man with your IQ knowingly STAY in a place thats is slowly killing his family? I was really trying the be clear with U in my 2nd comment but now I have to move on to bigger issues Mr. Weller. Your an angry man. There are real sick people here due to long term use of the water. You should press your landlord in to getting a filtered water system or see if there are any other causes in your home that may be causing your ENTIRE family to have ailments. Like the formaldehyde thats in the building materials that your living in. That your landlord signed off on at close of escrow. Cheers :o - NorCalBearz Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:29:09 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-822 sorry i referenced the wrong department. to report a property owner who is not installing a filtration system..contact hud. - what say you? Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:53:26 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-821 i suggest that anyone who is renting contact housing authorites and report the issue and they will contact the property owners and will force them to install the systems. numerous investors have already been contacted and were advised to install them otherwise they may face futre lawsuits and risk housing authorites seeking legal proceedings. why rent from a property owner who is so heartless to not even care about the families who live in the homes? report them a.s.a.p!!! for a having such a high iq why do you continue to live in diablo???? why continue to drink the water if it is killing you. At the next water meeting could you have your Docotrs from Davis come and share their findings of your sickness to the rest of us? Or at the very least could you share your patient records with us and explain all of your testing that you did since you are being so open. That way the ones who can afford it will know what test to ask for. But wait a minute your insurance is still paying for you to continue with testing and treatment even though you continue to subject your body to the very thing that is killing it? i need that insurance companys phone number! im surprised that a case manager has not contacted you by now and told you they would no longer provide you with benefits. So let me get this clear you don't have money for a filtration system but you have money for 5 star care at some of Northern California's most pricy health care facilites. wow, that must be some gas bill in it self getting to and from Davis and UCSF. i used to work in a hospital a county one for that matter and i worked claims/billing and i know at our low end level services were high priced. How are you able to afford counsultations,testings,labs, i assume perscriptions,follow up care? but not a filtration system or to move. if i were sick no lease or rental agreement would keep me from providing a safer enviroment for my family. especially if my landlord was so cruel as to not install something that could keep me from getting ill or in your case sicker? install it sue the landlord,sue western water hills, do only the payment plan and demand the monthly amount be subtracted from your rent or you are going to report them as a slum lord. Now if you don't have insurance im sure then your lawyer is advising you in seeking care..and is working pro bono. why don't you have your lawyer contact your landlord and inform him that if they don't intall a system that you will be sueing them as well. they won't kick you out you would have a whole other new claim against them. if you don't have a lawyer and are paying out of pocket those must be some really big bills that are only going to get bigger if you dont take control of your own future and demand your landlord to install it. sounds like to me people who are renting have more leverage then a homeowner. I also want the State Board of Health to show their face as well at a water meeting. No more here say..about the Health Board . I want to see concrete proof of all the rumors flying around. I want it to come right from the horses mouth. Property owners who don't install the systems need to be held accountable if they choose out of greed to not protect the families that live in their homes. - what say you? Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:39:10 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-820 You make so many grneralizations in you rant that it is worthless. No you did not stste anything about 6-9 months in your rant. Quote "I live in Diablo and love it there. Yes the water has concerns but WILL get fixed. Yes the homes are CHEAP and WILL remain the same until economy and so called WAR is over. If you live in Diablo YOU will not get your Equity back anytime soon. Yes the HOA in trying to help Homeowners but they are not Obligated to fix the water or bring your Equity back. "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THERE MOVE!!!" That says nothing about who you are refering to. I suggest that the State Board of health, the docters at Davis Medical center and the doctords at UCSF know a little more that you SIR. I also submit that you have a water filter system in your home and don't care that there are many here that are renting and can not afford to install such a system or the home owner will not because the homes are worth 1/2 what they were which is a result of the economy and under no one person's control. You mix your issues with no connecting theme or intelligent thoughts.You are not talking to some average citizen here pal, I have studied Physics at the university level and have an IQ of 164. I not only care about my illness but the prevention of illness to future residents. You on the other hand care only about your "Equity". Again I atate, I am fully up front about who I am and what I am doing. You would do well to either back off the rants or show your self for who you really are and what you stand for. - Mark G Weller Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:38:31 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-819 did you sign a disclosure about the water when you purchased your home? if you did'nt i would sue the bulider for non-disclosure.i am about 99.9% sure they knew the water was suspect. i did not sign one when i purchased my home and now dr horton is having people sign them. the month i bought my home they were cited and my loan still went through even though a updated water report was required. if i had known about the citation i would have made differnet choices. so mark if you did not sign the disclosure you should contact the bulider and let them know in writing,as well your lender, that you are seeking a claim of failure to disclose. i feel it will be very easy to prove and that is a better route then shouting at hoa meetings as peole have done in the past. i think if enough of us pressure the bulider and overload them with certified letters, and get an attorney we may make good progress. sorry you are sick im ok but i have not lived here too long and have installed a filtration system. wow, seems like lately anything can kill ya or give you cancer! cell phones,plastic water bottles put in the frezzer, microwaving food in plastic, booster shots,driving,eating fresh veggies,mosquito bites,getting x-rays,tanning booths,certian chemicals in lotions,l.a air not and to mention valley air is a sure killer.... - what say you? Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:34:13 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-818 Sir, I understand your anger. I've lived here for 2.5 years now. If you read my comment you'd see that I was referring to folks who have only complained about the inconvenience of living here and who've been here for 6-9 months and complain about major illnesses and folks who say they are worried about the water issues but have to throw in that they can't sell their houses and have lost money. Those folks are who I was pointing out. They jump on anything negative. Those folks are the phonies, schemers and complain, complain, complain!! They do not want to do anything positive in the community. I did not mention folks who are ill. I've only heard of them as well as yourself. Me and my family get regular check-ups and have had clean bills of health. We drink, cook, clean and bath in this so-called polluted water. I've seen you around and don't care to introduce myself because of all the negative issues so I stay away. Sorry your sick and hope you get well soon. - NorCalBearz Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:29:38 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-812 It is absolutly stupid of any one to post a comment here against the residents telling them to move out using silly Capitol letters (SHOUTING). That person needs to "pull their head out" so to speak. I use my real name here because I am a resident and I am not afraid to speak my piece if front of anyone that cares to hear. I was made ill by the water here and almost died. I really don't care what you think NorCalBearz. Come on by and speak to my wife and her children here with all sorts of illness not to mention mine, and I might listen. Till then shut up. - Mark G Weller Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:12:18 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-811 My personal opinion is we were lied to about the water. Alot of us up here who have been living here for over a year have become become sick as well as our children. We might love it up here and yeah its beautiful but the bottom line is we are sick of being lied to. Outdated water reports when the water was hmmmm ummmm slightly less contaminated and made it look better? at who's expense and health? Only people with filtered water systems and who have no children would lash out against those of us who do not and cannot afford wonderfully expensive filter systems. Maybe you should look at some of our children who suffer things such as bloody noses, skin hives, thinning of their hair, dried out skin..... shall I keep going? WOW and I havent even gotten to the adults yet! Heart, stroke, open sores that don't heal, migraines that are constant. Ugh we are simply just sick of being sick. - Angry Mom Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:38:45 +0100 http://pattersonirrigator.com/content/view/1903/42/#comment-810 here! here! boutime!! - what say you? 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